Alton Town Partnership

The Alton Town Partnership oversees the delivery of the Alton Town Plan recommendations and also helps to develop Alton.
Please contact us by telephone at +44 (0) 1420 549684, by email:
or write to:- The Alton Town Partnership, 66 High Street, Alton, Hampshire. GU34 1ET. UK.

64/X64 and 65 Bus Routes



From December 9th 2007, the 64 or X84 bus route from Winchester terminated at Alton Station rather than continuing to Guildford.
A new bus route - the X65 co-ordinated with the 64 route for onward travel to Guildford.

From September 1st 2008, the buses will only change their route number at Alton Station. The passengers can just sit tight.
Through ticketing from Winchester to Guildford is now possible again.

Sense at Last!

All this upheaval was a result of new EU legislation.

Some consequences for Alton are:-
The bus service still takes slightly longer to reach beyond Alton eg to Farnham.
The Train Station will has a few waiting buses present during the day and thus has become slightly more of an interchange.
Information about any delays in connections is still not provided to travellers.
The longer time a bus journey takes and the more inconvenient it becomes, the fewer people will use it and they will take to their cars instead. What happens to any global warming considerations in this scenario?

Here are the current bus timetables. The 64/X64 timetable has details of through buses from Alton.
Click Continue to Stagecoachbus.com on the top right hand corner after taking this link.

Bus connections are still not good at Alton Railway Station for commuters when travelling to Farnham or Guildford from the south of Alton.

Here is some background.
New EU legislation has placed driving restrictions on routes over 32 miles long - that all bus services over 50km must install tachographs to ensure that drivers do not work longer than the set hours to avoid exploitation and to prevent accidents caused by exhaustion. This distinction makes no sense. Compared to rural bus drivers, urban bus drivers often work longer hours by doing a series of shorter routes, often under more stressful conditions brought on by traffic congestion and overcrowding. The working time directive restricts the working week for particular employees to 48 hours. The road transport directive came in under what is called a horizontal amending directive procedure. This overrules the original working time directive, and there is no UK individual opt-out.

There are bus companies who have divided services up into smaller parts, but these smaller parts must be services in their own right. A 150km service cannot simply be subdivided into three to circumvent the regulations. To do that, the operator would need three vehicles, three drivers and no through ticketing (though presumably an all-day ticket would be acceptable). This is exactly what Western Greyhound has done, in chopping up its rural network.

A 32-mile route between Winchester and Portsmouth has became one of the first victims as Stagecoach said it was curtailing the service to avoid complying with the regulations, which it said would involve recruiting several extra drivers.
Andrew Dyer, managing director of Stagecoach South, said: "The EU is applying the same rules to this bus route as it is to one from Paris to Rome, which is silly.

"If a brain surgeon can volunteer to work a 50-hour week, why can't a bus driver?"

Another contact point at Stagecoach South who is encouraging travellers to complain to their MPs is Commercial Director Edward Hodgson.

Similar cuts are also underway in Norfolk, Cornwall, North Wales and other rural counties.
Unions have welcomed the regulations, which mean that drivers on long routes can no longer work overtime beyond Europe's statutory 48-hour week. Employers must use a tachograph or formal roster to track their hours. A Transport and General Workers Union spokesman accused bus firms of using it as a premise to withdraw socially important services: "Local authorities have got to look very carefully at these cuts and ask whether the working time directive is the be all and end all in terms of reason. "If these companies are short of bus drivers, then they should adopt the 'physician heal thyself' principle and pay their staff higher wages."

Bus firms also face a particular problem in a second directive which will require drivers to take a 45-hour break at least once a fortnight. Operators say this will force them to withdraw Saturday services because it will oblige them to give drivers the entire weekend off.
A third issue is that some bus operators are known to register multiple routes but run them as one through route in order to get fuel duty rebate.

Mark Howarth, managing director of the Cornish bus firm Western Greyhound, said:
About half of Western Greyhound's 26 routes are more than 31 miles under a policy of creating through routes the length and width of the county. Among those at risk is a 52-mile service between Bude and Truro. Local buses account for two thirds of public transport journeys in Britain. The government has set a target of increasing bus use by 10% within a decade and of ensuring that half of rural households are within a 10 minute walk of an hourly service.

Ben Colson, managing director of Norfolk Green, said towns in East Anglia were typically 15 miles apart, with major shops, colleges and essential services in every other town. He has already begun reducing services between Great Yarmouth and towns such as Spalding and March.
"It's not at all exceptional round here to travel over 30 miles to visit key shops or to go to a hospital," said Mr Colson.
He recognised the need for restrictions on drivers' hours, but said: "This completely loses its validity because of this very artificial distinction between routes under 50km and over 50km."

Modern buses cost roughly £30 an hour, or £1 for every two minutes, to operate. In the King's Lynn area, that is slightly more than the average fare paid. Every two minutes of extra time on the timetable because of congestion or other delays means that bus companies have to carry one extra passenger. Bus industry costs are rising at roughly 7% a year. The main culprits are employer and public liability insurance premiums, rapidly rising fuel costs and fleet insurance premiums.
There is a new EU draft directive on driver age; there is no start date yet. This will increase the minimum age for bus drivers from 21 to 24, thereby reducing career prospects and attractiveness in the industry. The additional costs resulting from that will depend on the age mix of staff at the introduction of the directive, but there will certainly be an extra cost to the industry.

This whole issue was debated in Westminster in March 2005 but has only just really received publicity:- Hansard Link

Communication from Hampshire County Council.
PASSENGER TRANSPORT LOCAL BUS SERVICES : WINCHESTER - ALTON - GUILDFORD

I have been advised by Stagecoach South Ltd of a business decision made by the company to revise the local bus service between Winchester and Guildford via Alresford, Alton, Bentley and Farnham.

With effect from december 9 2007, the service will be split at Alton. The key points are :-
* Service X64 (currently Winchester - Alton - Guildford) will be truncated to operate between Winchester, Bus Station and Alton, Railway Station only ;
* The section of route between Alton, The Butts and Guildford, Bus Station will be covered by a new service X65 ;
* As a rule, it will not be possible to travel across Alton e.g. Winchester - Guildford, Alresford - Farnham without changing buses ;
* Both service X64 and service X65 will be hourly (as service X64 is today) ;
* There will be an overlap in the times at Alton, Railway Station to allow for transfer of passengers who wish to continue their journey beyond Alton ;
* Through fares will be available for many passengers changing buses at Alton ;
* The Sunday and Bank Holiday service between Alton and Winchester which is financially supported by Hampshire is not affected by these proposals and will continue unchanged.
I understand that Stagecoach South Ltd are making this change due to a change in regulations. From January 1 2008, new regulations will impose costs on the company which will threaten the viability of the service. By splitting the service, neither service X64 nor service X65 are over 50km in length.
As I have already advised, this service change arises from a business decision of the bus company. Hampshire is not a party to the decision. The role of the County Council in this instance is one of information. The Winchester - Guildford service is included in both the Winchester Travel Guide and the Alton and Alresford Travel Guide published by Hampshire. New editions of both are being prepared for release at the beginning of December. It also appears in Surrey County Council's Aldershot and Farnham Bus and Train Guide. The key points listed above will also be posted on Hampshire's Passenger Transport website (www.hants.gov.uk/passengertransport).

John Mariner, Transport Officer, North East Hampshire,
Passenger Transport Group, Environment Department,
The Castle, WINCHESTER SO23 8UD
Tel: (01962) 846922 Email: my name with a dot between first and surname followed by at hants.gov.uk



top of page

Last Change - October 2008

Legal stuff - Details are subject to change but believed to be correct at time of writing (allowing for typing errors).
If you see a mistake, please send an email to comments (Change the " at " to @)

If you would like to use any of the material here, please email us. Feel free to link to us at any time.
Copyright of external sites remains and shall be that of the respective owners.
Copyright © Alton Town Partnership 2006 - 2008